NATURAL HEALING THROUGH PATCHES

Mind Cake is joined by Nadine at Arden Life

Hello, everybody, and welcome to another Mind Cake, where today we are joined by Nadine at Arden Life. How are you, Nadine?

I'm very good. How are you?

I, we were just discussing there the irony of recovering after a wellness festival, which is where we met. At the nec.

Yes.

And we were having a chat, and I said, wouldn't it be good to get you on? And here you are.

I am.

This is a quick turnaround.

I know. I'm still recovering.

Yes. No, I. I, There's going to be a little voice message, I think. Not in. Maybe not in this episode, but, people have been asking, how did you get on in Birmingham? I think my voice note just about sums it up. Yes, it was very good. And I met. Obviously met some very nice people, but three days under, blaring artificial lights and lots of noise and what have you. It was. It was pretty full on. Yeah, it was pretty full on. So I might need. I might need some of your patches.

Yes.

Which Segways nicely got yours on, actually.

Yes, I got my immunity on because.

Very good.

There was a recovery period in the sense of I didn't want to get unwell. So, yes, I definitely, have been, patchworked up.

You are the founder and the owner of Patchworks, a topical patch

Well, tell us. Well, that's a good place to start. Tell us about what you do and in particular, the patches.

So, yes, I, am the founder and the owner of Arden Life, and the main hero, or my main hero product is Patchworks. So you have 13 different patches, and each one is more specific to kind of needs that you. You have. So, as I said earlier, I've got my immunity one, which is going to have your vitamin C, your vitamin D, elderberry, which is fantastic for this time of year, to get past the colds and the flus and things like that. And everything is on one patch. You put it onto the skin, and it goes through the layers of your skin rather than popping pills. So there are 13. You know, obviously the best sellers is always something like the sleep patch. And then you've got the menopause, and, some, you know, a variety. But, yes, they're just kind of botanical patches that you just stick onto the skin and then you're done. So I've doubled up. So I had my immunity in the day, and then before I went to sleep, I put another one on because I did feel a little bit poorly and a lot of people around me were unwell. Yeah, I feel better for it. So I'm definitely an advocate for, for Patchworks.

You are, the Walking, talking advert for Patchworks.

I am, I am,

Quite right, quite right. So what can I ask, what is actually in the patches? Is it pure essential oils? Is it a blend? Is that anything to help absorption into the skin?

Yes. So, the good thing about Patchworks is whatever is underneath each patch is the clean ingredients. There is nothing else. So you're going to have, minerals and vitamins and extracts. So a lot here. So they kind of have all the things, but you can see some of them, you know, have like three ingredients because that's all that's needed, especially let's say in the menopause 1. There's three ingredients which mimics our oestrogen. You've got the immunity, which actually has quite a few more, and you've got your zinc in there. and as I said, like your vitamin C and elderberry. So they're extracts, vitamins or minerals. And the way it works is exactly like a nicotine patch. I think that's a really good way for people to understand it. So like a nicotine patch, you'd stick it on to like a thin skinned area and that slowly gets released. So for a smoker that you don't crave because you're getting that nicotine throughout the day. And very similarly with Patchworks, you get that slow release so that it's going into your system. So fantastic for like the sleep one. So. So that's getting released through the night rather than that hard hit and then it can wear off. So yeah, exactly like a nicotine patch. So minerals, vitamins and extracts that are on, on laid onto the patch, because.

I didn't know does do nicorette patches and therefore your patches, are they absorbed into the skin or does it go into the bloodstream?

So what I can say is that it is a topical patch and it goes into your skin.

Okay.

And absorbs in.

I'm just curious because somebody said to me, so you should never put anything on your skin that you're not prepared to eat.

Right. And I would totally agree with that person. So being in the health and wellness space and having a lot around me that's gone on and family members that have had, suffered in certain ways. I'm all about natural skin care, deodorants especially, because under our arm is very sensitive. Our lymph nodes all, you know, in certain areas. And that's one of the areas. So. So yes, what we absorb goes into, it goes into our system. And so I'm a big, big advocate for that as well. Of Be careful what you put on your skin, what you wash your hair with, the deodorants. We use the, the body creams and things like that. So, yeah, be mindful of that. I would implore people to do that as well.

Patch is a phenomenal way of getting minerals and vitamins into our system

Well, in true form, I'm going to go off a tangent.

Yes.

Because I am. I, I did start looking into deodorants.

Good.

I take it you don't do deodorants. But would you. Was it, would there be any that you recommend?

so I currently use Salt of the Earth, so they're one that is quite good at not having so many nuts, so many nasties in there. I was looking at the ingredients and I feel there may be, but don't quote me on this, but there may be an, an oil in there that we should avoid as well. But there was actually, I do have information on me, but information from the NEC that there was a couple of other people doing deodorants. But it's quite difficult because you want to make sure that you don't have any heavy metals in there and certain oils that aren't great for us or aren't great for the environment to be putting in.

I'm, going to skip on a question because, and I think you've probably already answered it in the fact that what are the advantages over inhalation? because I know there's, you know, I've heard of having a burner and you drop essential oils or aromatherapy oils in the top and then you like the tea light and it infuses. So I guess that's another way of getting it into the system.

Yeah, so there's quite a few ways. so one of them is kind of inhaling it, breathing it in. that's very much essential oils. I'm also a massive advocate for essential oils. Obviously, I'm in this space. So, Doterra is one of the essential oils that I use on a, on a health and ingestion way as well. But the reason why patches are a phenomenal way of getting, certain minerals and vitamins into our system is because one, if we take tablet form is really, it is really kind of coming away from the tablet form which are full of fillers and most tablets, you know, are so big and, you know, whatever. And I just see it as. There's a lot of bulking agents and a lot of fillers in them that's got to, you got to digest it. So it's got to go into your system, break it down and Then it goes into our bloodstream where, Or into our system, where with this. It's a. It's a patch that just sticks on. As I said earlier, I have my patch on right now. You stick it on and you're done. So there's no fillers, no nasties. You don't have to wait. so it's very quick. Quickly goes into the system. So, yes, it's kind of avoiding taking so many tablets and like my immunity one that I have on now, that's a vitamin C, a vitamin D, zinc, the elderberry that. So there's quite a few that I would have to take individually or find one that's multivitamin, which obviously isn't going to be as strong. And then inhaling things. So we've got more of the minerals and vitamins, which you don't really inhale anyway. But yeah, it's. It's a way of kind of avoiding tablets and, m. Being more specific to your needs and having one patch that has quite a multitude of. Of minerals, vitamins and extracts. So it's a really, really good way of getting it in immediately. So this is the problem.

Is there a difference between essential oils and aromatherapy oils

I've now got three questions that I'm going to need to write down.

Okay, so is there.

This is my pea brain. Is there a difference then between essential oils and aromatherapy oils?

That I'm. I'm not too sure because these aren't. These aren't essential oils. These are more extracts and vitamins and minerals. Yes. Okay, so there's no essential oils. Before I speak, let me double check. But they. There's no really essential oils. I mean, you do have like the valerian roots that's in the sleep one, which is the droplets, but again, it's an extract.

Yeah.

And then I'm trying to think of the other bits and bobs. I mean, yeah, it's all going to be. You got the Rishi mushroom in. In this, magnesium as well. So which one's that in extracts? That's in the magnesium.

Okay. Just making notes here, Nadine. Sorry. It segues into, That's probably for another episode. Did you. There was the feng shui.

Yeah.

Mushroom people were at the festival as well.

Yes. How was that? I didn't go to them.

Nice. Yeah, I liked it. But again, I've gone down rabbit holes because they were saying now, what's it called?

Is it microdosing?

It's microdosing. But there was a particular one that was being banned and they said, if you want it, you better get it quick.

Oh, wow. Either that was pushing for a cell.

No, it wasn't. I googled it afterwards and it's. And it's true. So in the east, they use it all the time as a cancer suppression.

Yep.

In this country, they're banning it for some reason. For human consumption. It wasn't tiger tail. What was something tail.

Turkey tail.

Turkey tail.

Turkey tail.

Got there in the end. Turkey tail.

Turkey tail.

So how do you get them into your. I was going to talk about. One of the other things I've written down is aesthetically.

Yeah.

They're very nice because they're clear, your patches. You don't.

Yes.

I just remember, like nicotine patches. It looks like you're wearing a big plaster ye.

Whereas yours, that are not transparent.

Okay.

So one of them, which is quite an interesting patch, is the biomagnetic. And that is for joints. So that's going to have your, turmeric, your blow, kycamine and zinc and a couple other bits. But there's, There's actually a copper film on top that actually protects from EMFs. So, you know, people sometimes have it. Well, actually, I've got it like a little thing on the back of the phones that you have that protects you from EMFs.

Right. Yeah.

This patch you patched, I did have it on earlier, but I've taken it off. But I had one and it's. That one's not transparent.

Right.

The rest of them are pretty much transparent. You know, you can, a lot of people put it in this kind of neck area or all along the arm because that's quite a thin space. you can put them at the back of your legs. it's just anywhere that's not going to have hair when you take it off is just going to give you discomfort, basically.

Oh, man. I have so much fun with Paul. there's some places I'd like to stick some patches on him.

Yeah, you like, take them all.

Take them all. Yeah, yeah, yeah. give him like a back sack and crack at the same time.

Yeah.

So does it matter where you stick them? Just as long as it's like a thin layer of skin.

Yeah. So it's just.

The patches are very easy to remove and they can be discreet

Don't make the patch have to work harder than it needs to. So you just want to get it into the, thinner part of the skin as possible just to go. Go into your system. System. Really cool.

Okay.

Yes.

Aesthetically, no. I noticed when you. When you were wearing them that I thought they look.

Yeah, they are.

The patch looks cool. But, you know What I mean it's not like, look at me, I'm wearing a big plaster.

Yes. And they can be really discreet. you, they're obviously transparent and you can wear a couple. So I do like two on one arm, one on the other. If it's a nighttime day thing, I can mix and match and even things. Like a lot of people have been concerned not with my patches, but with patches as a whole of like the, the glue kind of substance that helps it to stick, it's really easy to remove. The only time you're going to get that kind, of like, let's not halo effect, but the residue. Yeah, it's just where maybe your clothes might stick to like the dust and whatever. But it's very easy to take off. So it's not like a hard, thick kind of glue that's, that's stuck to you. So it's is quite easy to get off and they stick really well. So like, you know, I can pull up and down my sleeve and it doesn't catch. So. Yeah.

Okay. So what I was going to say in my layman's terms. Yeah, Like a plaster would have that it's obviously got the sticky bit and then it's got like the pad bit.

Yep.

So when you're making them.

Yep.

Does the, is it the same principle where the, the oils or whatever it is that you're putting go in, in on the pad and then the pad is absorbed by the skin? Is that how it works?

Okay, so it's the way it's kind of laid up. So there are, there is a manufacturer that manufactures them for me. I will then go to them and be like, I need this, this and this inside of these patches. And the science part behind it is that ah, you have different layers. So you have the plastic that it's, that it's on and then you'll have your layers of your ingredients put into it. and that'll be the extracts, the vitamins and things like that. Yes. So that's why it's so thin. That's why it can be transparent. And then that is then put onto your skin. So you have m. Two different types of patches, ones that go into us and one that pulls out of us. So you probably come across a lot of detox patches. So you put them on maybe bottoms of your feet and it draws things out and then you have other patches that get absorbed into us. That's how it's kind of layered onto the patch. And then I, put onto your skin and then we kind of absorb it on through our skin.

Cool. Okay, so you're leaving it on for 12 hours, if you'd like a sleep one or all of them kind of 12 hours.

Ish. Yeah. So all of them are 12 to 24 hours because it's slow releasing, which is great. Somebody did give me a little cheat, for the sleep ones. Okay, so one, one customer, she said that what she does because she only sleeps, let's say, six to eight hours, what she'll do, she'll peel it off. I mean, she. It works for her. I can't recommend it, but a little bit of a cheat for those who want to make it last a bit longer. So she peels it off and she sticks it back onto the plastic.

Nice.

and I was like, you know what, that makes sense. Because unless it's on the skin, it's just you're not taking anything away from it. So you're putting it kind of like sealing it again. So there's a little cheat for the sleep patches for those who want to make it last a bit longer.

A bit of a money saving tip there.

I know, I know exactly. Listen, I'm. I'm here if it works for people. And honestly, from that feedback from the show and from the other ladies that are kind of buying, certain other ones where it's really helping them, I'm like, if it works for you as an individual and I can help somebody, please, like, just try it. One lady, bless her, I was. Had a conversation. I stuck on two patches onto her. And, the next day she had, messaged me saying she put her order through. And I was like, I'm so happy that you found. Felt that. Yeah. So it really is a kind of product that I'm like, I love hearing people's stories. And then I hear that, like, so much sadness in certain areas. And then they'll be like, oh, my God. Like, even they're shocked. And I'm just like, I love that because I've. I feel the effects of them. I know some people that are, really suffering in certain areas. And they'll be like, yes, it's taken off the anxiety or it's helped me sleep better. And then other people are like, yeah, a total relief from a lot, from a lot of symptoms. So I'm really, really, like, happy to promote the, Patchworks, because, yeah, absolutely, they work. I'm like, I know it's a new concept, this whole patch thing. It's not new, but patches like this, I know because we've got, we've forever had nicotine patches and ever had HRT patches. So we have the knowledge, we know this type of patch works and now we've got it, you know, in, in different forms. So yeah, I just think it's such an easy, simple way just to stick, pill, stick and go, as it were.

Patch is less likely to have allergies than taking tablets with bulking agents

Well, I think that's the thing, isn't it? Like you say, if you're getting natural ingredients direct into your, into your body and into your skin, that's got to be better than, than taking tablets with bulking agents.

And then you've also. Yeah, and then the other thing. So when you have it as a topical patch, putting it straight onto the skin, you're actually less likely to have reactions. So obviously if you inject something that's in your system done like you can't take anything off or out. And then if you take a tablet, same concept, it's already gone into your gut, you can't then take it back out. But with a patch, if there was to be. But as I said, patches is a, ah, more, less, less likely to have allergies. You just peel it off if there was. So I had three ladies at the show because it's quite nice to have that face to face interaction. Obviously there's a lot of it over online and messag and two of them said that they react to a lot of things and allergic to a lot of things. I was like, look, I don't want you to waste your money because there's a whole month's worth of patches in here. I was like, put it on. One of them was like, she, she would react instantly. The other one was like, yeah, she'd get like a bit of an itch and they were fine. So again, it's a, it's a high quality product that I do stand by and I just think if it can help people do it.

Absolutely, absolutely. I didn't know talking, about sort of irritation. I've been having a lot of bloods done recently.

Okay.

And I didn't realise that they obviously ask you, are you okay to have these plasters?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But apparently it's a plaster.

It's a plaster. But apparently they go, oh no. It's quite high frequency of people who are like allergic to them and come out in a, come out in a rash.

Yeah. And the thing is, it's like, I mean going off topic, I do find that over the years I'm noticing people are more allergic to this and they're more allergic to that and more allergic to ABCs and these. And I just think as a human race, we're becoming less tolerant to certain things. Either we've overdone it with the kind of bombardment of chemicals and, and, you know, artificial this and the other. And, you know, through generations, our bodies are screaming to like, please just leave me alone. or we're not getting the right stuff to be able to fight off certain things or to handle reactions and stuff. I really do. I really am in that world of holistic. And for me, holistic just means using the. As close to nature as possible if you can. And, just. We will. I mean, as you said about, like, deodorants, like people putting that on every single day in an area that is thin that we absorb. And it's, you know, for men as well. There's, you know, you can have breast cancer and that. So my nan, she had, she had breast cancer and they told her after, obviously, it all been found out and whatnot, that don't use deodorants. And it's like, well, where's the education before that point?

Yes, it's a bit late.

Yeah, yeah. It's like, oh, so you don't get it again? Like, you know, and it's like, well, you know, that's, you know, 50, 60 years of it. So, yes, I'm, I'm not saying that you don't get sick because, you know, you get the pushback from people where they're like, oh, well, you know, you do all this and you still get a cold and you still get. And it's like, look, of course there's. There's constant viruses and everything going around, but it just means that I believe that I'm going to be in a better position to not get as sick, recover quickly, or I get sick this time and the next time I'll be stronger for it.

Yeah.

So, you know, like, things like antibiotics, they say that one antibiotics in a year. You're. I think, I don't know the statistic, but the likelihood of becoming depressed from just taking one dose of antibiotics, you know, skyrockets, really. And that's. That's your mental health over a tablet. That's, you know, So, I mean, I could go on and on and on about the industry and how it just really is scary when you don't know. And then when you kind of open your eyes to certain things and you're like, well, yeah, obviously I feel like this, or, or, oh, my God, like, yeah, I have been suffering, like, in this area. And what. Because of, a, you know, an antibiotic where going back to things like essential oils, oregano is as a natural form of antibiotics and you can take it and like make your little own capsule so there's. It's clean again and then you just take that as a course, you know, and just try it. You know, it might take you a little bit longer because it's natural, but the side effects are not there. And that's, that's the beauty of it. And you're not going to kill off one organ to protect another, which is another, another thing that I am. It saddens me how the industry is.

Yeah, I mean, I think with antibiotics as well, that basically antibiotics kill basically everything in your gut.

Yep, yep.

Which.

And our gut is correlated.

And it's so much more evidence coming out now that how important your gut health is.

Yeah.

So, yeah. And like I say, without being sort of, you know, talking about capitalism and the pharmaceutical industry, but, you know, doctors are, paid to prescribe stuff and, you know, there's a lot of money goes into marketing of, of pharmaceutical things that, you know, we could maybe do more naturally.

Has there been any clinical testing done on these patches at all

So, talking, I suppose, talking of, obviously you've heard a lot of people who have spoken to you and said how great these patches are and, and what have you. I just wonder, has there been any sort of clinical testing of them at all or any medical studies at all? I mean, because this is the first time I've ever heard, obviously, like you said, I've heard of nicotine patches. Yeah, I've heard of HRT patches. I have never. I don't know why, because it seems to be. It would seem to be a logical step.

Yeah.

I've never, until I'd met you on, on, on Saturday, I'd never heard of. Of these kind of patches. I just wondered, is it. Is. Is the science catching up or where, where is that?

So I think the only thing I will say about this whole, like the trials and things like that. So there's 20 years behind, 20 years of scientific research and, the practises of these patches and what goes into them and how it goes into our skin and if I'm really honest with you, it's a little bit like essential oils or let's say, we were talking about taking certain things for cancer, like the turkey tail. Now, you're not really going to find a product that says turkey tail may prevent cancer. You're not allowed to say it. So bottom line, I'm not allowed to Say anything. All I can say is that these extracts are really good for this and these vitamins are really good for that. And you should, you know, we're all deficient in vitamin D living in England. So you know, get that into your system. That. Yes. So the science of the patches has always been there and I just think, yes, it's an innovative idea. Now that's kind of come forward that is almost like a no brainer. Like, oh yeah, that's really clever to do it like that. but when it comes to the, it's more the social feedback that we get and the 20 years of doing patches that states what it can do and how it works for the system and stuff like that. But as I said, I can't say that this will do this. But you know, we can look at the ingredient. M. I implore anyone to look at the ingredients on the patches and go, okay, what does this ingredients, this ingredients and this ingredient ingredients do for the body? And that's how, you know, and I say to everybody, even loads of people that speak to research it like you know, it's, it's, it's better for you as well because through maybe using Patchworks you might then avoid using something else or then it'll kick start a journey kind of thing. So yes, they're very good for us, but we have to be careful how we associate them. Yes, yes.

I I did bump into somebody else at the festival because there was some rather woo woo stuff there.

Yeah.

Of which I'm not including you.

No.

But there was some pretty out there and, and I was told, well, you don't know until you give it a go.

Exactly.

And that I think works with, you know, one of the things that we've kind of, they built mind cake on is what might work for you doesn't necessarily work for me and vice versa. So you don't know till you give it a go. So Nadine, thank you so much for coming on.

Thank you for having me.

If anybody wants to get in touch or find out more about Patchworks or any other of your products, where should they go?

So Arden Life, that's where you want to be. So A R D U n life so ardenlife.com it's the same across all social media and any message, any email comes to me. So I am the person behind it and I love to hear people's stories and if you have questions, I am the person on the other end of everything. So it's a very direct personal business.

Fantastic. Well, Nadine, thank you so much for coming. on.

Thank you for having me.

And, I might have a lie down on a patch now.

Yeah. Get your magnesium in. Yeah, get my magnesium in, yes.